Is A Visa Required For Israeli Nationals To Enter Russia?

And this is why I always try to say “I stand with civilians”, because regardless of whether it’s Russians, Ukrainians, Israelis, or Palestinians, citizens, especially children, deserve a chance at life and deserve to not fear literally dying every single day. Because people are people, and we’re all just trying to get by.

Well said, Roman. As a youtube blogger when in a foreign country met a citizen of that country and told him where he was from, the citizen gave him a disapproving look, to which the backpacker replied, “all countries have governments and then there are the people.” To which the citizen smiled and shyly said, “Yes, that’s true.” Keep fighting for your people.

I mean, you’re not wrong… For me, I must say; I am against the Russian government but for the Russian people. I used to visit Pechory before the war, a very nice town with a wonderful monastery. You guys are amazing! And I wish all of you the best of lucks surviving your 1984-knock off society. Love from Estonia!

Since you were asking the big difference here’s the answer without any other commentary on the matter whether it’s right or wrong: Pogrom. Russians aren’t being hunted at the airports once their plane lands on the airstrip (in Russia) and their houses aren’t being marked by symbols so that others could break in and eradicate them (in France).

I agree with every word you said. Well articulated, Roman. I’m 50 yrs old and have been perusal and wondering about the US’s relationship with Israel and the billions given and the double-standards..There’s always an agenda. It’s disgusting all of this. Peace to the Palestinians, Israelis, Ukrainians and Russians. And peace to my fellow Latvians that have put up with a lot that still seek some justices. The tension still lingers here for notable reasons after a few decades of “freedom”. It’s all a bag of crap. Thx as always, Roman.

As someone who currently lives in Israel, it’s horrifying for me to see innocent humans being carried off into Gaza by Hamas terrorists. Those people are mostly civilians – young and old, men and women, children and toddlers… I mean, imagine yourself in their position. And the young, happy, lively people massacred at the Re’im music festival… I mean, how do you react to that? Young, beautiful people being slaughtered when all they wanted was to celebrate love and freedom. And later, I was horrified when seeing the images from Gaza. The destruction, the crying faces, the screams… again, Gaza is bleeding. I am angry, the Hamas are bloodthirsty terrorists who aim to hurt innocent people in the most sadistic ways possible – I mean, if it were really about fighting for the freedom of Palestine, they’d be fighting the IDF. But the Re’im massacre had nothing to do with fighting for the freedom of Palestine and confronting the IDF, it was about causing as much grief and horror as possible. Freedom fighters don’t target civilians, terrorists do. But… amidst all the anger and humiliation overflowing Israel at the moment, it’s extremely easy to overlook and ignore the full picture. The truth is, the situation didn’t start on 7 October when the Hamas managed to enter Israel and slaughter innocent people, did it? One must be really, really foolish to overlook the bigger picture and Israel’s fault in this situation. And here is the bigger picture: occupation breeds terror. You can deny it all you want, you can blame it on religion (which does play a role here, and I’ll get to it later), you can blame it on mentality, you can go full bigot and blame it on the shade of one’s skin… ignorance is bliss.

I’m part Cherokee (Native American), my ancestors were force relocated in an event called the Trail of Tears. I can’t go just back to my ancestral home of Georgia USA or whatever it was called back then and kick someone out of their house. There are some parallels. I don’t do the religion thing personally, I think its silly and mostly a stupid waste of time. To be honest I don’t see good on either of the sides now. When innocent people are killed just trying to escape the death and carnage leaders need to be held to account. A response to Oct 7th is only natural and is expected but Israel is by definition committing war crimes destroying a refugee camp, or the extreme death toll is not proportional as more innocent people are dead than Hamas terrorists. Putin is doing the same in those regards when he sends rockets into apartment buildings and schools in Ukraine. I don’t blame the average Russian, Israeli, Palestinian etc… The cowards like Putin and Netanyahu or Haniyeh are responsible but there does come a point where the citizens help their own destruction by inaction and fear while letting their horror become others. I feel you. No worries friend, not going anywhere.

I think you make really good points. One big difference here though is what set off the current hostilities in both places. In the case of Russia-Ukraine, no attacks on Russia were launched from Ukrainian soil by the group that was last elected to lead Ukraine, like what happened in Gaza. Instead Russia basically said we think there are nazis running Ukraine so we’re going to surround it and invade it, and in many cases commit genocide against the people there, kidnap children to take back to Russia etc. If the Ukrainian government had last been elected in 2006 and had launched a massive cross border attack into Russia I think the world community would’ve been more understanding of Russia’s retaliation. Likewise if the current attacks on Gaza had started without the Hamas attack but instead had been the Israeli government surrounding Gaza, making statements that they don’t like the people running things in Gaza, and then launched a massive genocidal war against Gaza the world response would be a lot different. The US would be hard pressed to maintain its support of Israel and I think you would see similar sanctions being imposed against the state of Israel and its people as you see currently imposed on Russia. That doesn’t make what Israel is doing right, its not, and they’re paying a heavy diplomatic price for their heavy handed response, but the circumstances really are different. That being said I completely agree with you that I’m kind of in the middle shrugging my shoulders because there are very bad actors on both sides and innocent people caught in the middle on both sides so I’m mostly just hoping that things don’t spiral out of control and turn the whole middle east into a massive shitshow with the US military sucked into the middle of it.

I’m glad you have a similar “Both sides are committing horrendous things therefore I don’t support either of them” mindset to me. It’s insane how readily people have been to “Pick a side” and or how quickly people have chosen which side they support with such a complex situation as the Israel-Palestine conflict. A conflict with decades of history behind it and one that isn’t as black and white as people treat it.

The Israel palestine war is such a difficult topic. These boarders from the countries there changed 200 times in the last 500 years with world wars and colonialism which makes it really hard to say which lands belong to whom. In case of Ukraine and russia. Ukraine had been annexed by Russia gained its independence has contracts over it with russsia which clearly shows which is ukrainian terretory and which is the russian one. And there is a democratic goverment in power in Ukraine and not some islamic terror group like in Gaza. The Group who runs the autonomous west bank lands is a islamic group but way more peaceful than the hamas. Isreal also got the right to defend its terretorry from an attack some goes for every other country. How they conduct their ground offence can be critisiced

Massive respect to you my guy, I have loved your opinion on these dark situations for a long time and I believe most people, given the chance, would hold the same options.. keep doing what you are doing, hopefully things can get better eventually.. Everything seems dark at the moment… On a lighter note, I can’t help but notice when you say “lets be honest” I hear “lesbianas” made me chuckle 😂😅

The fact that Palestinians are weaker militarily doesn’t mean they are morally right. Supporting the weaker side just because it is weak is a complete fallacy and may stem from intellectual laziness. What matters is the intentions and the values of each side. While one side wants to live peacefully in its own sovereign liberal democratic state, the other wants to invade that state, purge it from all non-Muslims, and establish a caliphate state. Though both are weaker militarily compared to their opponents, Comparing Ukrainians to Palestinians is incorrect because they do not share the same values, morals, and goals. If any comparison is to be made, it is the Russians (Z supporters) who share more values with Palestinians, i.e.- opposition to democracy, dictatorship, anti-liberalism, corruption, racism, lack of freedom of speech and protest, self-victimization, sanctification of death etc. Ukrainians on the other hand are willing to live peacefully and in a liberal democratic state – same as Israelis. regarding sanctions – Russia is primarily criticized and sanctioned for starting an unprovoked invasion into a sovereign state. The same way as Hamas invaded Israel unprovoked on October 7th while performing all kinds of horrific atrocities to Israeli civilian population. So, if comparing both cases, it is Hamas and the Palestinians who support it that need to be sanctioned.

I think there are some distinct differences that need to be addressed to sort of understand the issues surrounding Israel. First the founding documents of Hamas actually calls for the destruction of Israel and the eradication of Jews. So from the start there is no real negotiating. Second Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005 in an attempt to normalize relations then the rocket attacks started again. Second it has been shown that Hamas puts tunnels underneath Hospitals and Civilian targets to hide munitions. On top of that there is evidence Hamas purposely push civilians into areas where they fire their rockets and missiles from with the direct purpose of forcing Israel to fire at them killing civilians. The saddest part of all of this is that there is no good way to solve this problem. (edit) so after re reading my comment I wanted to make one more point, Hamas understands full well that it can not win in a conventional sense which is why they do such things with Civilian lives.

There is one big difference between those two wars and that is that Russian and Ukraine lived in peace, everyone know what are international borders and respect them until Putin decide to take Crime and then whole Ukraine, that s one big difference. Izrael was never totally solved problem while Ukraine was.Russian Ukraine war is much bigger and it is literally changing world so reaction is not same. And I need to also tell that West is not perfect, we have our on problems, we have corruption,we have incompetent politicians, we dont have enough people or natural gas, we have many problems and I hope we get better. You will get upvote from me because you are right there are hypocrite reaction from West, and we need doing best to find best solution for peace in world.

Just because you are young, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t learn a bit of history. First, Israel is not invading or attacking a free, independent country, like Russia did with Ukraine. Israel is responding to a terrorist attack, where over 1500 young people from across the whole world have been brutally killed. There’s no Palestinian state for a reason, they refused over 5 proposals for the creation of such a state in the last 30 years. Second, the US, the western Europeans and the East Europeans still remember the harm that the USSR – old Soviet union, currently known as Russia, did. Old Soviet union destroyed over 25 countries after the second world war. So don’t expect to ever be truly loved, trusted, or cherished as a Russian. You are the embodiment of the old Soviet union. Third, you keep mentioning the imperialist Israel. Perhaps google is broken, because it failed to show results for a search “Israel empire” or similar. Lastly, it’s a matter of perception, if I’m at a bar and 1 Israeli enters, I don’t feel threatened. If 10, or 100, or 5000 enter, same, I don’t mind. If 1 Russian enters, I’m in a state of alert. If 10 enter, I will be ready to force them out. This is how the world regards Russians today, because of the abuse that occurred in the past. Bottom line, Israel is similar to Ukraine and hamas is similar to Russia, not the other way around. Good luck explaining how you feel sorry about Ukrainians in the future after this crybaby post about how the world let’s Israel DEFEND ITSELF and not let Russia INVADE OTHER INDEPENDENT COUNTRIES.

Russian national idea was based for a long time on WW2 and “we are the winners against n—sm” which could give people a feeling that “we can do no wrong”. Israel’s national idea was based around “we were the victims of n–sm” and this could give them the same idea that they “could do no wrong”. When a person or a group start believing that they can do no wrong, they commit the worst crimes

I sat though this whole article. It was painful. It’s discouraging to see young people so ignorant of history. Even before we get to history, Russia invaded neighbors. Isreal was invaded by a neighbors and is acting in self defense. Then we get to history. There were no Arab nations or a Jewish nation prior to Mandated Palestine. There were Arab tribes and Jews that had always lived in, what was before the Romans renamed the area Palestine, Judea. Jews began returning to their homeland in the late 19th century, PURCHASING land (land was not given to them). When the Arabs didn’t like Jews moving back, the UN divided the territory. Arabs got nearly all the land and Jews got a sliver. Jews did not expel Arabs from their new state. Arab nations expelled Jews from theirs. Isreal took in Jewish refugees and made them citizens. Arab nations will not take in Arab refugees as citizens. Jews do not insist on a Right to Return, even though they had to leave everything behind, but because Arab nations won’t take in their brothers and sisters, they insist on Right of Return in Isreal, which would make the population of Isreal more Arab than Jew, which would change the nation because it’s a democracy and Arabs have the same rights, including the right to vote. If Palestinians dropped their arms, there would be peace. If Isreal dropped their arms, there would be no more Jews.

Israel was attacked by Gaza. Gaza elected Hamas. Hamas is responsible for the attack thus Gaza is Hamas. Hamas leaders have said they won’t quit fighting until Israel doesn’t exist. Gaza could surrender, give the hostages back and apologize for the attack but don’t see any of that happening. My suggestion is let them fight it out or it will likely happen down the road.

Romanian here. I dont understand why people criticize Roman for this article since all he does is ask some questions. You could try to answer it or not.Simple. In my personal opinion both Israel and the palestinians are pawns in a big geopolitical game that is played in the Middle east. Even if Israel is hated it is also needed as a scapegoat. For example if the economy of an arab state like Syria,Irak,Iran or Egypt has problems, its leaders will never blame themselves for incompetence but they will blame israel. Also the same arab states that say that are pro palestinian, will never help the palestinians. Nowadays with Iran having more influence in Irak,Yemen,Syria and with hamas, I doubt that Jordan,Egypt and saudi Arabia are pro palestinian anymore since they see palestinians today as iranian puppets. As for Russia, sadly for the russians, you are no longer relevant anymore. China is relevant today. Russia should have taken the example of China and improve its economy,infrastructure and made itself atractive for huge foreign investment. Also China made itself indispensable in making all type of cheap products( toys, mobile phones etc). We are all flooded by ”Made in China” products. On the other hand we are not flooded by “Made in Russia” products. And all of this is Putin fault. With the exception of Moscow and Petersburg,the rest of Russia is frozen in time in the year 1990. (by the way its a good setting for time travel movies). The only thing that Russia did is selling oil and gas and enriching Putin and its oligharchs.

To be fair… As an American I’ve never heard an American say Russia was in the “wrong” during the Chechen wars. Even amongst those I know who are knowledgeable in history dont say that. Most of us to view it as a legitimate albeit bloody and awful conflict. But Russia had the right to act against those conducting terrorist operations against them. They also had the right to defend their sovereignty. So in the same vein many believe Israel has the right to stop Hamas. And it will probably be bloody and awful. The average American also doesn’t view Israel as an occupier. Many think the muslims of the area blew it. The Palestinians had their state. And every muslim country surrounding them invaded Israel. So they lost it for them themselves. Is that the right way to view it? Maybe not. Its a very simplistic way to view the issue. But thats why the nation views the two completely different. One is viewed as defense… the other is a “unprovoked” attack on a neighboring country who wanted nothing but to pursue its own foreign policy and make their own friends. Again I’m not saying its the correct view. Only offering a reason why the two situations are viewed completely differently by a large portion of the United States. I actually agree that by punishing Russia as a whole we’ve actually strengthened Putins regime. The dumbest was not allowing Russians to travel. You would think the West would want every Russian male who doesnt want to fight to be able to travel… but Im just a lowly peasant.

I’m really glad to see you say this, because seemingly almost no other reasonable person will. I’ve been deeply saddened and disillusioned by my country’s (USA) continuing to provide arms and support to Israel as it commits more and more brutal war crimes (I would have expected that from a fascist like trump, but even the Democrats are largely on board), but I hadn’t thought of it in relation to Russia’s war in Ukraine. The hypocrisy is shameful. Calling out imperialism and what is essentially borderline genocide is not antisemitic, nor is it in any way supporting Hamas (obviously).

All I can say as a “Westerner” is that all we want is peace and freedom, and will do what can be done – preferably peacefully without harm of any kind – and we hold regret for any time that our governments haven’t and don’t act in a good way. Nobody’s innocent but governments have picked their side and are scared to backdown. People understand that the general polulations of Russia etc. just want normal lives without any of this shit. Just hope we can all get past this one day.

Haven’t left comments on YouTube since the start of the Ukrainian war but now I think it’s about a right time to do so. As a russian passport-holder (unfortunately) and half-russian ethnically, I have to disagree with you on the point that we can compare Israel’s actions in Gaza to russian’s in Ukraine. Both cases are a huge tragedy and I don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings – but the difference is that there ACTUALLY was a fact of military/terroristic aggression from Palestine towards Israel. 8th of October if I remember correctly (if we’re not taking an amount of conflicts in the past into a consideration either). Can we justify bombing 8k+ people by this? NO. But at least, the provocation actually took place (as well as hundreds of Israel’s civilian deaths on that day). Again: I’m not justifying what Israel is doing by saying that. But we have a fact of both-sides aggression in this case. But if we’ll take russian-Ukrainian situation, there was NO a single attack from Ukraine towards russia. Like, never in a modern history. There’s literally no point how we can justify russian aggression towards Ukraine. So.. yeah, I think that’s probably the case why we got such a different attitude towards russians and Israels. Both situations are f*cked regardless, and I wish all of it ends asap. Piece to peaceful people🕊️

As an American who’s staunchly against blaming average Israelis, Arabs, Jews, and Muslims for what is happening to the Palestinian people in Gaza, I am happy to see that a lot of the world and a lot of fellow Americans can see that what the Israeli government is doing to civilians in Gaza is wrong since I wouldn’t have imagined this type of reaction back with the bombings on the Strip a few years back. That being said, I also think that western countries taking such measures against average Russians to undermine Putin and the Kremlin was a pretty stupid way to cut into their resources cuz all it does is hurt civilians and not the people with their hands on the levers of power. Also just want to say, thank you for being super based again, Roman. Peace and love, brother

These companies are not leaving because the war crimes commited in that conflict are done by both sides and the whole situation is very gray, meanwhile russia ukraine war is black and white, russia was the one who attacked, russia is the one commiting war crimes and not as any retaliation for terrorist attacks but purely for more power

Maybe review the order of events. Russia invaded Ukraine and started slaughtering civilian population. Israel has been invaded, suffered a number of casualties, and then started killing fairly indiscriminantly… These two scenarios are NOT the same and at some point, people are responsible, for what happens from in/from thier nations. Stuff that happens in actual retaliation is justified, as hard it is to swallow.

Вау по настоящему адекватная позиция в англоязычном интернете про бессмысленность срания в штаны мирному населению, потому что ОКАЗЫВЕТСЯ большинство граждан стран-сторон конфликтов не виновато и у них оказывается есть ЧЕЛОВЕЧЕСКИЕ ПРАВА. Не думал что доживу до этого дня. Спасибо Рома за то что нашел смелость высказаться про эту ситуацию

Unfortunately in our world being morally consistent is one of the most sure ways of getting cancelled while people who actually deserve to get cancelled enjoy all of their power and luxury… If you say something nuanced on issue A they will call you X and if you say something nuanced on issue B they will call you Y because people cannot think beyond simple statements like “X is good but Y is bad” Thank you Roman for being what the word based should actually mean, that is standing for what you believe in even (or especially) when it makes other people hate you

I think you make a lot of good points and raise some good questions about the problem of collective responsibility. That said, I think the comparison breaks down in two ways. Firstly, the civilian areas that are routinely hit all across Ukraine are not as problematically intertwined with military targets, as they are in Gaza. International law requires that civilians not be hit, but where the other army uses those civilian areas to operate the international rules require only a warning (which still seems inadequate, but thats what the rule is). Thus Russia’s targeting in the first few weeks of the ‘SMO’ is less defendably according to international law. The 2nd reason it breaks down is also because western nations have also criticized Israel and urged care. Yes, the UN votes go the way they go, but that’s different from what they are pushing for. See Blinken’s comments. There is a lot of back and forth that arguably was not present in the Russian sphere of allies.

It seems you clearly have no clue about Zionism nor about the currant conflict. You’re not radical with your opinion, from what I assume you’re a reasonable person, nevertheless, you’re fed with lot of misinformation. I just think that people around the world are in a rush to judge every conflict that happens in the world, even though they’re not related to it in any way. When citizens get caught in the range of fire intentionally by Hamas, is Israel is to blame? Or the fact that Hamas uses highly populated areas to launch their attacks gives them immunity (not even considering that Hamas brought the war on intention)? Or is it just a trend to condemn Israel, as any other political view in the west that comes and goes as a trend? I don’t remember anyone talking so much about Syria nor Yemen, countries where about a MILLION people where KILLED, though not by Jews as retaliation for a terror attack, but by other ARABS in the name of god. That’s some hypocrisy by itself, don’t you think?

Я русский и живу в США уже 20 лет. Вчера я посетил выставку Освенцима в Лос-Анджелесе. Я обнаружил столько сходства между Второй мировой войной и сегодняшней войной в Украине – когда я прочитал то, чему стали свидетелями люди во время войны с обеих сторон – написанное на стенах выставки, я был потрясен. Те же фразы от простых немцев, которые я сегодня слышу от простых россиян, – буквально те же самые: что они всегда были окружены врагами и никому не нравились, что каждая страна мечтала напасть на них и лишить их национальных ценностей и идентичность, что они должны были начать войну первыми, иначе это сделали бы другие страны. Благодаря такой пропаганде немецкий народ превратился в беспощадных и бесчувственных монстров. Я вижу, что тот же процесс происходит и с российскими З-патриотами. Они просто игнорируют тот факт, что в Украине каждый день люди умирают ни за что, и делают вид, что в их жизни ничего не меняется. Это страшно! Я каждый год навещал своих родителей и многих родственников в России, пока не началась война, не знаю, как теперь туда поехать – все мои родственники либо поддерживают это, либо стараются не смотреть новости по телевизору, потому что это может их “расстроить” . Я знаю, что все войны однажды заканчиваются, но не знаю, как мне забыть и простить свою семью за их выбор быть слепым и невежественным.

I think you really captured how most rational people feel. There is a lot of hypocrisy out there and things aren’t so black and white. I’ve noticed even the US govt who usually always 100% supports Israel is kinda walking back the support from what they are doing. Thanks for saying what we are all feeling.

I want to thank you for your statement.I’m living in Western Europe and i agree to your point of view according to double standards.Politicians and media try to form a perspective according to their political agenda.This is horrifying because populations could not trust their political leaders but they will pay or are already paying the price for their leaders actions.

I believe it’s important to be able to disagree and yet still remain in dialogue. Your perspective is important and well articulated. I do think there are a few false equivalencies between Israel (a small country in the middle east) and Russia (1.7 times the size of the USA, super power, and with ability to destroy the world). Still, that is not to say that there are not double standards.

That civilians are being killed in Gaza is obviously bad but honestly what is Israel supposed to do? If they just stop they look weak and if Hamas sees it as a victory the next attack is only a matter of time . In my opinion, Israel unfortunately has no other choice but to fight (if anyone has another solution I would love to hear it), and are therefore not even remotely comparable to Russia, which started the war in Ukraine itself.

You went too far, there is nothing to compare. I will give you three answers. But in advance I say the third answer is more important. 1. We didn’t wake up one morning and decide to de-Nazify our neighbors because they got closer to NATO. We are in a war that we did not start. And in fact this is a proxy war with Iran, not a great friend of NATO countries. 2. Unlike Russia, we are not a gas station with an army. Exports, especially our technological exports, are critical to the world. And now we also supply some of the gas to Europe that previously came from Russia. 3. The world is on the brink of another world war. NATO armies are partly based on Israeli technology. Mainly in coastal defense and air defense, but not only. * Bonus answer, a very large number of Israelis are eligible or have European citizenship. I will soon receive a Hungarian passport, my wife has a German one. So that such sanctions were very problematic to implement.

Why are people comparing two wars that are nothing alike? How is Israel being an “imperialist”? Do you know how many times Israel gave up land? Even Egypt occupied Gaza until 67. Any land Israel gained after being attacked and winning, it gave back, and some rejected the offer(West Bank is a good example). Palestine and other Arab countries are the ones that continue to reject the deal because they will not recognize Israel. Palestine was given 80% in 37-9 and rejected it. What Russia did to Chechnya was illegal, and prevented a country gaining its independence. Russia invaded Ukraine based on lies.

Even if you’re cancelled I’ll still watch. Also good job on being fair and criticising both sides. Many seem unable to do this. On another point, I’ve noticed something about the Israeli government. Now, I’m not pro-hamas or anything, I take no sides as I don’t know a lot about the history, but I noticed when the Israeli government are called out on excessive bombings or war crime type stuff, they don’t address the point and instead deflect and use whataboutism. I recall perusal a press conference clip where one of the Israeli representatives basically said “but what about what hamas did, you talk about war crimes, they did a war crime, look over there!!!!”. Like, no, stop deflecting. Yes, hamas committed a terror attack, but that doesn’t give you free reign to commit your own war crimes. Answer the questions. On the other side, hamas are criminals and scum for committing a terror attack, sparking a heating up of tensions and conflict, then hiding amongst civilians, thereby weaponizing them as part of the war. Finally, you make a great point about treatment of Russia vs Israel, but I think the difference is Israel doesn’t have intentions to take over half of Europe. Also since the cold war Russia has been the west’s adversary so we already have a negative stance towards the state and see it as worse than Israel. It does seem like a double standard still though. On the front of companies not leaving Israel, it’s simply because there aren’t sanctions or social pressures to do so.

Как один русский другому. Израиль множество раз предлагал и соглашался практически на любые условия, которые привели бы к миру. Каждый раз арабский мир активно этому препятстствовал. Hamas, а до него PLO создавались исключительно для уничтожения Израиля. Не для заботы о палестинцах, которыми они всегда прикрываются (что и ведет к жертвам, правда, верить цифрам Хамас — это как бы…) Можно надолго заехать в историю конфликта (кто там что оккупировал (см. Иордания и Египет), но суть такова: Израиль всегда отвечает. История началась с нападения пяти стран на Израиль в 1948 году. После этого сценарий был всегда одинаков. Кстати, момент, о котором любят умалчивать: после того, как доблестных воинов PLO выпинали из “Палестины”, они начали бузить в Иордании (да, про Черный Сентябрь там хорошо помнят). А еще активно участвовали в уничтожении христианского населения… в Ливане. Сюрприз, да? Ливан был христианской страной (да, христиане там были очень своеобразные, без Ветхого Завета, но все же…). До появления там палестинцев. От полного уничтожения остатков ливанских христиан на юге страны тогда спас — еще один сюрприз — Израиль. Ладно, проехали. Ты, как я понял, уехал из России, ну потому что вся эта хрень с т.н. СВО не по тебе. Окей, объяснимо. А теперь доступно и медленно: Палестина (обе ее части) — это такой же гнойник, как ДНР и ЛНР. В роли России выступает весь арабский мир + все мусульмане + все сочувствующие (которых просто до фига). В роли Украины — Израиль. И, напоследок, рекомендую посмотреть вот это видео:

Roman, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts. Ukraine did not attack the Russian Federation before Russia attacked Ukraine. But Hamas murdered 3,000 Israelis and kidnapped hundreds more before Israel attacked Hamas in Gaza. Ukranians do not use their own civilians including women and children as human shields. But Hamas does do this. A recent poll in Gaza showed that, even with all the death and destruction in Gaza, 70% of those polled still approve of Hamas’ attrocities against the Jews. Among the 40% of those who don’t approve of attrocities against Jewish civilians, many Gazans deny the attrocities ever happened. But on one point, Jews and Arabs in the land agree. They agree that they cannot live side-by-side in peace. It has taken Israelies nearly three generations to come around to the Arabs’ way of thinking on this point, but noe, finally, they get it. The only quedtion remaining to be resolved is who stays and who leaves.

Thank You for your opinion and comments. I always look forward to your content. We should absolutely separate the people of a country from the government of a country. Though Russia is an authoritarian dictatorship you were able to walk away with your life, having the ability to start again. The way I see this Israeli -Hamas situation or any fundamental Islamic State is that only the men have a say in anything. 18 years ago Israel pulled completely out of the Gaza Strip. Hamas was voted in as the ruling government party. Since then the government of the Gaza Strip, Hamas, has poured much of its funding into offense not defense. As Women and children are not allowed to leave the home without permission from, and in many cases the supervisor of a man, making it hard to evaluate civilians. Even though Israel has provided a way Out for anyone prior to this horrible war. Women and children are not allowed to leave their homes as per the men/government/culture, it is not allowed. Hamas knowingly and willingly holds as Human Shields the Women and Children of their population to hide behind after making strike after strike into Israel over the past 18 years. My heart breaks for everyone affected by any war anywhere. This unrest between Israel and Hamas must come to an end. Not just for this attack but for every attack that will happen in the future. Hamas continues to willingly put their Women and Children at risk and then wants the world to make Israel stop!!!!! So Hamas can regroup for the next attack.

Thanks for your nuanced article on this topic, Roman: I agree with your take on the issue, so you aren’t alone. (When you live in countries like the US, if you criticize the government of Israel, you are painted as antisemitic, in an attempt to stifle debate: It’s as if nuance isn’t wanted or even allowed…)

Interesting article. I do agree what Israel is doing now and have been doing for the past decades to the Palestinians is disgusting. However, I always wonder what the solution has to be? It is true that it was unfair that the land was given to the Israelies and that the Palestinians had to give up their land. However, we cannot deny that many Jews and Israelies are living in Israël so giving the land back to the Palestinians is not a solution either. Ideally they would share the land, but I am unsure if this will work. I also want to emphasize that I hate that there are two camps that downplay the actions of their own camp. Pro-Palestinians downplay the actions of Hamas which clearly constitute to war crimes and crimes against humanity. Pro-Israëlis on the other hand they downplay the decades of mistreatement, human rights abuses against the Palestinians. I think it would be better if both sides recognizes this because there is no justification for killing innocent civilians (wether they are born in Israël or Palestina).

this is exactly what i’m thinking about.. I’m as Russian (not living in Russia who never voted for Putin) facing problems – bank cards, visas ect. i lost job because of cancel culture. i’m tired of this bloody “collective responsibility” of all double standards of all this nonsence. thank you for this article.

I’m very late to this, I realise that, but there’s an aftermath that I’d like to highlight now. What he’s saying about Israelis being treated “fairly” compared to Russians is not always true. I’ve been following the H3 podcast for a while now, and well, the backlash they’ve got for just being Israeli (Hila) or somewhat connected with Israel (Ethan) is insane. Apparently, they were never allowed to voice their feelings on the 7/10 attack on Israel because that just meant, to people, that they automatically agreed with the Israel government’s treatment of Palestinian people. The general public is simply missing nuances. Being Russian or Israeli never never makes one individual automatically right or wrong about everything they say or do